Buy An Expired Domain Name Or Should You Buy A Brand New Domain?

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Interesting question, isn’t it ?  Let’s chat about how an  expired domain name can be a great advantage to you.

Generally speaking, you need a domain to put your blog, sales page, message, or whatever on the internet, don’t you?

Of course you can use a variety of free web 2.0 style websites such as blogger.com, Squidoo.com, Hubpages.com, etc but to have full control over your content, you really need your own domain.

So what do you do?  You go out and purchase a brand new domain, setup your webhosting, and you’re good to go.  This is pretty well all the common advice given to you, and in fact many people would not realize there is another alternative.

You follow all the “right” ways of doing things, you don’t go too hard on linking, because you don’t want to trigger the “Google Sandbox” where your website does not even appear in the search engine result pages (SERP’s) for sometimes up to a period of months.

And, even if you do avoid the sandbox, you combat Google’s “new domain slowdown” effect where you may not rank well no matter what you do for a few months anyway.

Opinions vary on whether the Google Sandbox, or the “new domain slowdown” (my term) actually exist, in our experience we have seen both happen to various degrees.

But essentially, really what I am saying is you start from scratch, with a brand new domain, no page rank, and no backlinks (links from other websites to yours).

Did you know there is another option?

Buying a “second hand” domain, (also called an expired domain name or an aged domain).

This is a domain that has been registered by another person, and for whatever reason, they have decided not to renew it.  The domain registrars (Godaddy, etc) offer these “soon to expire” domains for sale to people like you and me (if you know where to look).

There is a complete business in buying and selling these domains, and buying and selling aged domains often go for staggering amounts of money, but I am not talking about the business of buying and selling domains here.

I’m talking about buying aged domains to be useful from an Internet Marketing angle. e.g. Great rankings in the search engines, etc.

At the cheaper end, you can buy a “soon to expire” domain for around $5 (plus the normal cost of 12 months registration, around $10).   These websites offer you simple tools to search to find bargains, but you have no easy way to find the age of the domain, or if it has any existing page rank. In other words the searches are not what I call “Internet Marketers” searches, they dont really give us the level of detail we need.

Why would you want to buy an expired domain name?

Well the advantages to an aged domain are the disadvantages of a new domain.

You get no problems with the Google Sandbox because the domain itself is not a new one, and no “new domain slowdown” for that matter either, for the same reason.

But the positives are many and include: -

* Often you get a headstart with your linking strategy, because sometimes the domains have backlinks already (from the previous owners efforts).

* Sometimes the aged domains come with instant traffic!

* Sometimes the aged domains have existing pagerank (4+) !

Yes for $5, can you believe it?

And, usually, in our experience the page rank sticks, I can tell you this for sure, since we been actively buying and using aged domains for the past 8-9 months.

Want to know the other great thing?

In general these aged domains (particularly if you find an domain 5+6 years of age or older) rank better and quicker than a brand new domain. Now imagine how that would make a difference in your Internet Marketing efforts?

Just by spending a few minutes selecting an aged domain, you can put yourself in a better position that competitors who don’t know about aged domains.  This could make all the difference in getting you ranking quicker in the SERP’s.

So hopefully now, I’ve sold you on the idea of Aged domains, the next problem you will face is not where to buy them from (Godaddy is a good start) but how to pick the good from the bad.

Godaddy does not show you the age of the domain, or the page rank, etc so you have to manually sift through thousands of domains to find the gems (and they are there).

So you could select a domain, paste it into a site like dnscoop.com which will give you this information.  That’s what we initially did.

After about my 20th domain, being a geek, I setup a simple “cheap and nasty” script that worked for me, where it grabbed these cheap domains and one by one went through them finding the age and page rank.

Armed with this information, I would go out and purchase a domain according to the criteria I had set.

Since them, we have grabbed and used hundreds of domains like this, including a domain that was 9 years old, and another that had a page rank of 5 ! For $5 (plus registration).

These cheap domains (Godaddy refers to them as closeouts) seem to be avoided by most of the “buy and sell” domain marketers, so it makes it easy pickings to find a suitable domain.  And for only $5!

Recently, we took my “cheap and nasty” script and re-engineered it and added a new spiffy interface that allows you to quickly find aged domains without being a geek.

You can search by keywords, price, etc to find a range of aged domains that have your keywords in them (These rank better, as you will find out in our New Web Traffic & Marketing Formula or via our numerous videos, etc on this site.

Once you have a list of domains your interested in, just click a button on the website and get the page rank and age shown to you (note that this takes a little time to generate, because it has to do all sorta of fancy geek stuff to get this data, but it does work!).

After finding the domain you want, just click it, and you can buy it instantly direct from the registrar.  How easy is that?

Keep in mind with buying aged domains, that it’s not an instant process as it is for new domains.  It can take a few days for the domain to get transferred over to you.  This is normal, as there is a period of time between when you buy and before ownership is transferred over to you where the original owner can pay a large fee to get their domain back.

I’ve actually never had this happen to me, but it is possible.  In any event there are hundreds or thousands of new domains becoming available each day.  Just make sure you choose the $5 ones that are “buy now” domains, and not domains where you are just placing a bid or an offer.

The FREE website domain service we have developed makes this simple for you, just checkout

Aged Domain Finder

Give it a go, we would love to hear your comments on it.

Shortly we will be posting details of our aged domain strategy for you to use in conjunction with aged domains.  Only full members of the Page One Total Control Formula will get the full strategy but we will be giving away parts of it to subscribers of our email.

If you would like to receive a copy of this, subscribe to our mailing list here.  We promise no spam, selling of your email address, or general Internet Marketing bad stuff!

Enjoy the new website!

Cheers

Tim

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Why not find out more about how to Increase Web Traffic right here?

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  • http://www.cogniview.com/ Apple

    Thanks for the information. You are absolutely right, if you expect someone to leave a comment, the least you can do is turn of domain.

  • http://www.neediff.com sudha

    Great post! I followed the link to the site and am now using it. I have been considering the benefits of buying these types of domains lately. It was such a fluke when I saw your tweet.

  • http://www.neediff.com sudha

    There are many reasons why people buy expired domain names. One of the reasons these recently deleted domains are attractive is the notion that they are more favored by the search engines than new domains, and many of them carry good page rank. For example, many expired yahoo domains and those found in DMOZ contains page rank 3 and more. Furthermore, buying yahoo expired domains could save you a few hundred dollars a year.

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  • http://rmctech.net Ryan Critchett

    Yea, I’ve definitely noticed a domain slowdown effect on my computer repair website. It’s 2 months, 20 days old, we’re ranking on page 1 for some terms, but are now stagnant, no matter what we’re doing. My competitors have little against me, SEO wise, I’m doing some pretty extraordinary, high quality things, and still not ranking too well.

    Time. Time will fix this for sure.

  • http://www.takeoverpageone.com Tim

    @John – Either works, and of course even a “general” broader one tends to work for relevance.

    @Mike There is no relationship between a domain having no page rank and it being treated as a new domain – Age is age. Of course no pagerank means you dont have a lot of linkjuice to pass on but you can chance that by adding links to the domain.

    So rest assured all is ok with aged domain without pagerank but do make sure you invest the time to build links to them.

    Regards

    Tim

  • Mike

    I have purchased several aged domains with ages ranging from 6 to 11 yrs old. Now I am reading posts online that state that because the domains have no pagerank they are just like having a new domain. I thought I would at least be able to build up links faster due to the age of the domain. Please share with me your experience on this.

  • http://earnmoneyonlinewithjohn.com john

    which do you reccomend then

    buying aged domains with a close keyword match ?
    or
    a new domain with an exact keyword match?

    j

  • http://www.diethealthytips.com Bruce

    Sometimes you have to buy a new domain name to match your specific niche and just build it up. Then you want to make sure the search competition is low around 10,000 when you put the domain name in quotes using Google search engine. The same goes for title and keywords. Premium domain names can be very expensive. Don’t foget to use the Google Keyword Tool when slecting a domain name for competition results.

    I’ve ranked very well using this method. An example would be “diet healthy tips” which I develop diethealthytips.com. The domain name was 11.99 at Godaddy a while back. Now the competition just over hundred thousand for that keyword. Currently my site registered on DMOZ, I really haven’t submitted it for backlinks yet. But it’s on the first page of Google for the moment.

  • http://www.practiceattraction.com Jessica

    That is really helpful information. I work with holistic business owners and solopreneurs, and few if any of them would probably ever think to buy an expired or aged domain, but what a brilliant idea to help leverage someone else’s SERP. Most un-weby small business owners need all the help we can get, so thanks for this tip!

  • http://aboutacne.awardspace.com/how-can-my-baby-have-baby-acne-hes-not.php Ted @ about acne

    A very useful tool which has saved me alot of time and effort in manually searching for expired domains.The instructional video is clear and eay to understand.I watched it once and knew hoq to use the software.Great job!Thanks for the software.

  • http://www.findageddomains.com/ Andy

    Even if you want to use a brand new domain for your site, it is still a good idea to buy some aged domains as part of your seo efforts. You buy a couple of aged domains with keyword in your niche, put up small site son them and after a while link them directly or indirectly to your main site.

  • http://www.ydeveloper.com/ eCommerce

    Expired domain name is better than buying a brand new domain only if it has more age and value as in terms of search engine and have more traffic as well.

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    That was an amazing post and I must say that I am most thankful for the script. Going to give it a try. Nice work

  • Habika

    I followed the link to the site and am now using it. I have been considering the benefits of buying these types of domains lately. It was such a fluke when I saw your tweet.
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  • http://www.chimineashop.co.uk Chiminea

    Interesting article about aged domains but where are the easiest places to buy them? It seems so complicated. And why do places sell fakes ones?

  • http://www.cocorostyle.com Baby Kimono

    Great article. Answered a lot of my questions about buying aged domains. Thanks.

  • tim

    Absolutely yes, it’s still applicable :)

    To find the cheap domains all you need to do is selection auction type buy now and enter 5 as maximum price, then search with your keywords.

    There are hundreds if not thousands of new domains available each day.

    To see the page rank after you have search just click the button !

    Enjoy…

    Cheers

    Tim

  • http://www.juliusmamaril.com juliusmamaril

    How long has this post been? Is it still applicable?

    I followed the links and site mentioned here but I don’t find domains which are $5 for sale and hopefully has a page rank….

    could you site other online sites that offer search expires domain for free.

    Regards

    juliusmamaril

  • http://www.simonashari.com Simon

    Cheers for this.

    What is wrong with the ‘place your bid’ offers?

    also, if you don’t end up getting the domain for $5, do you get refunded?

    just curious.

    cheers anyways!

    Simon

  • http://www.advertisingph.com/ Buy Backlink

    its better to buy expired domains.
    because, first, in very important reason is the is old and can help with your ranking.
    and it is help u to avoid cost of money.

  • http://affiliatenuts.com Jodie

    Whoopsies on writing my name twice. :/

  • http://www.affiliatenuts.com Jodie

    Great post! I followed the link to the site and am now using it. I have been considering the benefits of buying these types of domains lately. It was such a fluke when I saw your tweet.

    Cheers!
    Jodie

    Jodie

  • Eric Looi

    What a wonderful tool!

    Thanks Tim and Anthony! :)