In case you are not aware, we have recently sent out a few recommendations about what to buy on the Warrior forum.
They call the products available for sale on the Warrior forum WSO’s (short for Warrior Special Offers). We have found many excellent internet marketing products here but BEWARE as there are many “not so good ones” if you are not careful.
At first glance buying products on the Warrior Forum is a no brainer, since most are very cheap (typically under $30 and many under $10), but all is not always as it seems.
Firstly, it’s not like ClickBank where an independent party is processing sales and refunds. With Warrior Forum you are typically paying the product owner directly.
This can possibly be a problem if you need to get a refund. Paypal is the vehicle for all sales on the forum and PayPal’s dispute policy does not really cater for virtual items like ebooks and software.
Bottom line: Don’t generally expect a refund unless the seller is an honest, reputable person.
Secondly there are so many new releases coming out on a daily basis, that even at these prices it could still cost you an arm and a leg to find “the gems”.
In our experience a lot of the products are crap.
There I’ve said it, someone had to. Some of them are true garbage for a number of reasons including: -
- Poor quality of the product itself (e.g. software with bugs, etc)
- Dubious methods (some of the principles used may not work, or get your website banned, etc).
- Lack of support – Is there someone to answer your questions before and after you buy? You would be surprised at the number of products that get some initial sales and then the product owner disappears.
Warrior is a forum and this is a good thing because people can comment on their personal experiences – In fact this is a good method to weed out good and bad products – By peoples own recommendation and their personal experience.
1. Crap Products
You will find a ton of crap WSO’s. It goes with the territory. There are some really desperate people there who will happily try and sell you something that may not work properly (sometimes they may even realise it’s crap, other times they don’t know).
The point is you need to do some investigation before buying anything on the forum (or know someone like ourselves who has done the due diligence for you) – Read on for some ways to filter out the bad stuff.
2. Dubious Practices.
Some of the “techniques” can be a little “out there”. If you don’t feel comfortable doing what some of these products suggest, then it’s time to look for another product.
Remember that there is very little regulation going on in the Warrior forum. Unlike ClickBank who manually approve products, it’s (to a large degree) “a free for all” in the Warrior forum. You have no way of knowing whether something is worked based purely on the sales page.
You really need to find someone YOU TRUST to tell you what is a GOOD and a BAD product. Hint: Us maybe?
3. Fake Reviews.
We recently recommended a WSO called “Content Revenge” because we know the owner, Craig Romero, personally.
As an aside, we are not trying to get you to buy Content Revenge as it’s offer has now closed, but are instead using this as an example of a “reputable and GOOD product”.
Because we knew Craig and had no problems with his personal integrity, we could recommend the product (although not before trying it for ourselves).
We also knew Craig would not “doctor” fake reviews and that comments on his WSO page would be from real people and not made up to trick people into buying.
Yes some WSO’s have fake reviews created with fake accounts where they plain do not tell the truth about what the product is and/or results obtained using it.
Let’s show an example of a REAL review first (we cannot really show fake reviews since we do not want to get sued). However by showing you a real review we can help you to spot bad ones.
Look at the picture below. (You can click the image below to see it more clearly).
Now look specifically at the information at the top left below the picture.
Lets start with the join date. This is the date they joined the forum. Did they only recently just join the forum or have they been there for a while?
Look at the number of posts the “reviewer” has made, and how many ‘Thanks’ they have received (thanks are when someone has found the person to be so helpful in answering another post that they have “awarded” the a Thanks). The more thanks the more likely it’s a real person who actually knows what they are talking about and are likely to be trustworthy.
You can see this example is a solid review because the person has been a member of the forum since 2008, made 116 posts and had 17 people thank her in other posts on the forum.
Generally you will find “fake reviews” to be from users who have only recently joined the forum, have only got a handful of posts and most likely never received a “thanks” before.
So at best if you read a review from someone like that, it should raise a red flag for you.
It is possible that the review is genuine and the person has just joined the forum, but at the very least you should be looking for this.
4. Read the posts made by members and not just the SALES Page.
Here’s a different example.
Now we do not know this guy personally, but this seems to certainly fulfil the criteria of a scam.
(The above link is on page 12 of the comments where there are lots of upset people). But even looking at page 1o of the WSO there were warning signs. See this.
Pretty well every WSO is going to promise incredible things, like making $11,000 per month, or receiving a million visitors (depending on what they are selling).
It seems WSO’s seem to have a high hype level and as a result other people releasing WSO’s feel compelled to also be hypey to “compete”.
One of the best ways to see if the product is any good is to read the reviews (like the one we showed you above). If you start reading how real people are getting good results from the product, like the product after downlloading it, are finding it to be useful and even some good and bad things about the product it’s going to help you decide if this product is for you.
Make sure you scroll to the LAST PAGE (ideally read all pages of content on the WSO offer). The reason is when a WSO is new few if any people have bought it or used it, so there will be more questions. After a while if support issues come up or bad reviews or other problems, you will know it’s time to drop it.
Here is an example below of a “bad product”. Look at some of these comments.
Ouch – Do you believe you can pay $1549 for a guaranteed monthly income of $400/month?
It’s pretty well impossible to guarantee income. You can be reasonable sure, have expectations to make money, but this would have to be a red flag to us.
Ignoring the fact that WSO’s in general are using hypey text, this is a guarantee they are making that they can’t really make ethically .
Something to be worried about.
5. Product Support From the Owner.
This is another biggie. How is the product owner responding to peoples questions about the product. Are they responding at all? Are they avoiding the “hard questions”? Are there complaints about a lack of support? Has the product owner “disappeared” ?
If you are seeing problems like this in the comments under the “sales page”, you can you imagine what will happen when you buy the product? Hint: don’t buy it !
Of course things do happen, for example someone may not receive the login access to a product due to a technical fault, or an email going into their spam folder or whatever, and maybe because of the frustration level may even post a few times about a lack of service.
Take into account the world operates on different timezones. Is the product owner asleep? Yes we all have to. Is it a weekend? Believe it or not some people do NOT work on weekends! Yeah go figure???
Maybe the product owner did lose internet access for a few days, or had to go to hospital. Yeah sometimes these things happen.
Take a good read of the entire WSO, and watch any videos on the page. Is there a person in the video? Take a good look at them. Ask yourselves “do you trust this person”? Do they look shifty? Go with your first impressions. Generally they will be right!
If it seems to good to be true and there is no evidence to the contrary (e.g. recommendations from people you trust, or evidence by other forum members), they you should probably pass.
If what they are claiming sounds unbelievable to you then maybe it’s a clear sign that you should move on.
This post is all about educating you how to buy products on the Warrior Forum. As we have shown you it’s not as easy as you might suspect.
There are a lot of factors you need to determine when buying a product to make sure it is legitimate and worth it.
WSO’s are a great way to get some fantastic bargains and products that can really accelerate your online success, but care must be taken to find the right products.
If you see a lack of support from the product owner, then that is a red flag. A lack of positive user experiences is another. Fake reviews? Another red flag.
Rest assured that any product we do recommend on the Warrior forum has passed our tests – > The owner is legitimate, the product is good (we have personally used it) and the support level is excellent.
We and our team test a lot of WSO’s (and other products) each week and can tell you that most fail due to one or more of the factors we have listed in this article.
Please comment below – We would love to hear from you.
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To your success.
Tim and Anthony